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Happy 2010 everyone

Journal Entry: Fri Jan 1, 2010, 6:58 PM

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:heart:New Year News:heart:

Hi hi everyone.

Wow, I must say I see I got a fair number of new watchers this past week. These new groups are great. I just have to get around to posting more work on them, don't want to flood them with my works after all. I like the fact that it now lists which ones I've submitted where so I don't double submit things.

*waves to everyone* I hope you all had a good New Years. Many of you know how my last week was... I decided to kick myself out of this funk and get back to work today. I spend New years eve with Kim, watching movies and having a pasta dinner then we spent from about 2am until sun rise cleaning up the study, removing the rest of the guinea pigs stuff, moving things around, giving Puck, our Dwarf bunny, more space to play and moving the Gerbils over to where the pigs used to be so they now get more attention. Then moved the computers back into the room, which have been in the living room the past while due to how cold it is in the study. We decided to face the cold because we are more productive in here. I have resolved to answer my messages then get right to work. First off a look at how I did with my resolutions and goals for 2009.


2009 Resolutions:
- Continue writing 10,000 words a month. [not sure how I did on this one due to the fact that I ended up working heavily on Inside OuT and that took a lot of time, but I didn't post the scripts and they needed a lot of rewriting. I also did some ASD so I did do a fair amount of writing, but not sure if it is 10,000 a month.]
- Finish at least one full colour piece a month, be it a chibi or detailed wallpaper or anything. [I managed to get a lot of colour works finished this past year. A lot more then I expected to actually. Other then those two crashes I had I think I did rather well.]
- Try to do 1 manga page every 2 weeks at a min. [Well I did more then that, however I did have two big crashes last year. If it wasn't for that I would have got a lot more done.]
- Create more tutorials. [Check, even a video... well several but the others don't seem to want to upload to Youtube for some strange reason.]

2009 Goals
- Of course my first goal is finishing those last two gifts. [Done!]
- Complete book 3 of ASD... if possible. [Ummm.... nearly finished...]
- Rework Lingering Shadows Within and post it. [Yeah... that got put on the back burner.]
- Work on completing A New You. [Completely dropped for Inside OuT]
- Work on more of "Letters from a Secret Rose Garden" and "Whimsical Wanderers", one day I'll finish these... [and one day I may actually do that...]
- Come up with more short stories. [started a couple more, just have not finished them as of yet.]

Hmmmm I didn't do too badly, though my goals did not get done at all... I just didn't expect Inside OuT to get so many readers so quickly so it sort of took of my time so it all worked out in the end.

So what are my plans for 2010 then?
Resolutions:
- Work on a page of Inside OuT a week at the very least. Start drawing every Monday and hopefully have a page done for Wednesday or Friday.
- Finish at least one colour image a month.
- Write 5,000 words a month, lets down that from last year and see if I can keep at it at the very least.
- Redo a few tutorials
- get back to photographing birds of Toronto, I sort of stopped after Kim accidentally deleted 2 gig worth of photos. I really want to get back to this because it forced me out of the house every now and then.
- get out of the house a bit more, try to face the world... maybe go to one of those Toronto DA group gatherings... Something.
- try to be more social and talk with people on the forums I joined last year before my summer crash... that was just not fun... whenever I crash like that I isolate myself from everything around me and only end up returning to the places I feel safe, right now that being DA and DH...

Goals:
- Of course finish more of Inside OuT. Since I got 70 pages done last year I'm aiming for the same or more next year.
- Hopefully finish Book 3 of ASD, so many people keep asking about this and I'm sorry for the delays. I've not given up on ASD, just too busy with other things.
- Finish the two gift art pieces I have in the works.
- Only crash once this year. Those two crashes where something else last year. Considering one had to do with my medication there was little I could do to stop that from happening, but this second one is something I could have prevented. I have to make sure I don't crash like that again. I hate when it happens and it is hard to recover afterwords. What did cause that second crash anyways, *thinks to herself and her eyes narrow* Oh right... now I remember... *grumbles* I have got to stop letting things get to me so much. Maybe only a couple minor crashes and not these ones that take me out for months on end. That would be nice.

So those are my resolutions and goals for the new year. I hope I can keep to them.


:heart:Other News:heart:

So other then my guinea's dying I'm guessing a few of you want to know what my Christmas was like. Well I spent a lot of time with Kim, watching a few movies and playing WoW. I completely missed my appointment with my specialist, I was certain it was on the 28th, but it turned out to be on the 17th... how I made that mistake I don't know. When I got into a downward spiral like I did my mind and play horrible tricks on me... I hate it when that happens. Saw our old roomie in the middle of the month to exchange gifts. We ended up getting a bunch of Warcraft Mini, got some good loot cards out of them including a bear mount, Drew got us a heroscape castle and bridge along with the huge Taruen hunter figure that Kim has been eyeing for a while now. Also we got two in game pets from Drew that are just great. I love Lil K.T. and bring him out all the time, because of those two I finally got my 50 pet achievement which also got me a prize of a skunk.

I spend the last week off and on playing WoW and reading manga. Managed to gain a few achievements in WoW, including the Merry Maker, cold weather flying, Dual Spec and LvL 80! Highest lvl in the game at the moment. There is so much to do when you reach lvl 80 it is unreal. We have been riding around in the Argent Tournament battling on mounts with lances and playing a lot of Battle Grounds like Wintergrasp, which allows you to ride in tanks and use siege weapons. I plan to only plan on Weekends or when I need a break from art. I'm not going to let it rule me.

Well that being said I'm off to answer my messages and then get back to work on art. I hope this will be a productive year for myself and hope it is a good year for everyone else as well.

Kat



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Good-bye Hawk.. And Harley too...

Journal Entry: Tue Dec 29, 2009, 3:40 PM

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[edit] Today, Dec 29th, Harley joined her sister. We did everything we could, got her to eat a few green peppers and drink a little water, but slowly she stopped eating entirely and passed on while we were asleep... We knew this was going to happen, but it didn't make the last few days any easier. I planed to get back to work on the 27th, but this situation with Harley has left us rather miserable so haven't been able to focus on much of anything, just randomly surfing and reading manga. Haven't even been playing much WoW. I told myself to get back to work right after New Years no matter what. I can't let depression over the loss of two little critters stop me from working. Sorry for all the delays...[end edits]

I hope everyone is having a good Christmas. Thanks for all the favs on my art and stamps, I appreciate it.

This morning one of our Guinea pigs died. We got Hawk and Harley a while back and I went to check on them this morning to find Hawk wasn't moving and Harley was nudging her body to try and get her to move. I should have known something was wrong because Harley is such an active and loud little girl. She makes so much noise all the time begging for more hay and treats. Today however she didn't make a sound. We are worried that she might die too just out of loneliness. She is moving around and eating, but not squeaking like she usually does. It is very quiet around here without them making all that racket. You don't realize how used to that sound you get until you live with it for a couple of years. *sighs*

Well, I'm spending the rest of Christmas with Kim. I'll probably be back to art again on Boxing day or after.

Well, hope you all keep safe.

jaa ne

Kat



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Happy Holidays everyone.

Journal Entry: Tue Dec 22, 2009, 3:35 PM

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:heart:Art news:heart:

I hope everyone has a safe and fun holiday this year and a great new year.

Well, I've been working up a storm as some of you might have noticed. Been going through my art folders finishing off anything that was left over from my resent crash. Nearly finished them all with only one more Born in Blood image awaiting scanning, but I think I may leave that one for later. I was about to work on it when I stumbled upon another image that I'd started and forgot about so began inking it, god this one is a monster but very interesting. I should have to colouring done for this new one soon enough, along with another piece for Inside OuT.

While taking a short break from art I created a couple more stamps and was about to upload them then had second thoughts. One is this flashing gif that flickers red and yellow with the words, "Caution, Yuri Art Ahead, You Have Been Warned." but I thought it might be a little too much. I considered adding in the line "If you don't like it then leave." then decided against it and as I was about to post it I decided not to. Then I came up with a new Inside OuT stamp featuring Setsuko and Yui kissing then thought it might not be a good idea seeing as I already have an Inside OuT stamp. I'm never sure if posting stamps is annoying or not. *sighs*

I've also been thinking of a Christmas image, but discovered I don't have any really chipper characters for any of the poses I can think of and since there is no real solid relationships in Inside OuT as of yet it is hard to come up with something other then Yui paired up with someone. I came up with this silly comic strip featuring all my characters from all my worlds invading the Inside OuT world for a Christmas party, but seeing as I have so many characters it would be too much to work on at this moment when I should be getting back to work on Inside OuT itself.

Well, I'll be back to working on Inside OuT soon enough. I only have two more images I want to get finished, but seeing as Christmas is almost here and my having an appointment on the 28th I can't guarantee anything really soon, but I'm working on it. Well back to work with me.

Kat



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  • Reading: Sasameki Koto
  • Watching: To Aru Kagaku no Choudenjibou
  • Playing: WoW
  • Eating: reese's pieces
  • Drinking: Orange juice

Back to some extent. [edit] Grounded?!?

Journal Entry: Sat Dec 19, 2009, 1:58 PM

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[edit]This is just so bloody hilarious. Some fool just posted on my stamp that my Parents should, get this, Ground me for life. ROTFL. The reason I find this so funny is I have no parents, haven't had any since I was sixteen. Well, there are my Wife's parents, but they considering me as one of their daughters and get this, they gave us away during the wedding. I mean they were standing right there, Dad holding the rings, Mom beside Kim, and everything. Never mind the fact that I'm bloody well 34 years old. I thought some people were dumb but this one takes the cake. Come on Grounded? I've had worse comments left on my works before. This is so bloody silly. I hide the comment and banned the person. I was going to just leave it, then I noticed just how hateful their sig was and didn't want my watchers upset by something this stupid so decided to hide it. I don't want a war starting up here over something like this.

Remember everyone, the best way to deal with homophobes like this is to laugh and draw more of what you love like mad. This person seems to hate yuri and crossdressers so guess that means I haven't drawn enough of it. After these images of blood be prepared for a downpour of goodies. *grins* Homophobes like this tend to just fire me up to create even more of what I love to write and draw. LESBIANS!!!!

That is all from me for now.

[end edit]

Hello everyone, I hope you are all keeping warm during this holiday season. Out here it didn't start snowing until recently and according to the newspaper it is the first snowless November in over 160 years so that should tell you something.

I see I got a fair amount of new watchers, many eager for the next part of Inside OuT. Welcome to my little piece of DA, I am Sister of Death Kat and will be your guide on your journey through the madness of the human mind and sexuality.... Wait, you say you are here for my lesbian romance and not and not my demented horror/psychological Lesbian stuff... Hmmm. Weird how this year turned from buckets of blood to a cute and fluffy story about love, Where did I go wrong?

*looks back over the years worth of art* Hmmmm... since when did Death write pure romance? *shrugs*

Anyways, I'm sorry to say you'll have to wait a few for more of Inside OuT. When I recover from a bout like this I tend to return very dark and slightly more insane then usual and my madness tends to seep out in my works so it will take a few to be able to draw light and fluffy stuff again, kind of hard to create romantic stuff when your mind is filled with images of blood. Right now I think I need to finish this series of art pieces I have half finished for The Shadowlands called "Born in Blood". A little while back I started working on profile images for the characters from A Shadowlander's Dream and noticed that each and every one of them have a grisly past that leads to them covered in blood, either their own or someone elses. It all started with a sketch of Kimberly, then one of Kai and another of Kris, each of these are either partly coloured or have the line art finished.

Now I know a lot of you out there are interested in my more romantic stuff and rest assured I'm not giving up on that stuff. I just need a moment to recover. If you don't know already I'm not all here mentally and this is my way of coping so please bare with me for a moment longer.

Also I don't know if any of you have noticed but the first page of Inside OuT was completed on Dec 28th so the year anniversary for the series is coming up. I really was hoping to have 100 pages and all the characters introduced by now, but there is little I can do now. Hard to believe it has been nearly a year since I started work on this project. The way it is going I suspect it will be as large or bigger then the ASD manga series, which went on for about 400 pages before I dropped it for the novel series, and many of you know just how huge that series became. I hope this one will not be that big, but knowing me it will go on for a few years yet.

I'm also working on an art trade for :icontn-studio: which I hope to get back to very soon.

Well I hope you all have a safe holiday. My apologize again for vanishing for a bit and thank you all for the support over these years.

Kat



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Stressed

Journal Entry: Tue Dec 8, 2009, 4:02 AM

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My apologies again for not being around the past little while. I hate this time of year, not just because of the holiday insanity, but because it is time for my bi-annual doctors appointments. I have 4 appointments this month alone. Already dealt with the vampires, I just hope I got it in on time after the mess with my meds back during the summer. Now that have to see if everything is alright after all the changes. This leaves me even more stressed, never mind having to deal with the holiday crowds just to get to my appointments and all the insanity dealing with the Flu virus going around. So much security and questions every time you even visit.

So if you don't hear from me for a bit I'm dealing with a lot at the moment. I do appreciate all the comments and favs. I hope to answer them soon enough.

Kat



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Shoutbox

*Shinigami-Shimai:iconShinigami-Shimai:
New Year is here, time to get back to work again
Sun Jan 3, 2010, 9:03 PM
*Shinigami-Shimai:iconShinigami-Shimai:
Good bye hawk and harley, we'll miss you two.
Tue Dec 29, 2009, 3:41 PM
*Shinigami-Shimai:iconShinigami-Shimai:
Happy New years to you and everyone
Mon Dec 28, 2009, 2:12 PM
~shanejayell:iconshanejayell:
Merry x-mas. ;)
Fri Dec 25, 2009, 3:29 PM
*Shinigami-Shimai:iconShinigami-Shimai:
Happy holiday everyone, have a safe Christmas
Thu Dec 24, 2009, 1:44 PM
*Shinigami-Shimai:iconShinigami-Shimai:
Let's just say I've not had the greatest of pasts and when I get depressed I sometimes feel like Death itself.
Tue Dec 22, 2009, 9:34 PM
~callmebutterfingers:iconcallmebutterfingers:
Is there a way to explain it?
Tue Dec 22, 2009, 3:50 PM
*Shinigami-Shimai:iconShinigami-Shimai:
Thanks, it is good to be back Shane
Sat Dec 19, 2009, 10:21 PM
~shanejayell:iconshanejayell:
Welcome back, oh Shinigami. ^_^
Sat Dec 19, 2009, 5:43 PM
*Shinigami-Shimai:iconShinigami-Shimai:
If you knew me you would know why I call myself Death from time to time
Sat Dec 19, 2009, 2:23 PM

Personal Info


For those who don't know me. Here are some facts about me.
Name: Sister of Death Kat
DOB: April 29 1975
Sexuality: Boi Dyke, for those who don't understand this means I'm a lesbian who looks boiish.
Status: Happily married to my wife and soulmate :icontheredwolf13:. Yes we are legally married so please don't message me with questions about if it is true or not.
Location: Ontario Canada.
Occupation: Artist and writing of lesbian lit. Mostly horror and the likes.

I am Shinigami Shimai Kathryn, Kat to most. No the nick name Shinigami Shimai did not come from Bleach or Death Note, I've had it for about 10 or so years and it started from my first manga series A Shadowlander's Dream and represents a lot of who I am. If you read my many novels you will understand why.

I a major gamer and anime/manga fan. I love horror games and RPGs and have been playing games since I was little. Been watching and reading anime/manga since the late 70s, love shoujo more then anything else, and started studying the style back in the late 80s, before all the hype. I also love psychological thrillers and horror, been reading Stephen King since I was about thirteen and fell in love with his style and the sheer creepiness of his creations. But I can't stand horror without a story too it, slashers are right out for me.

Kim, my lovely wife and soulmate, and I are both major gamers and as such we have had many systems. Right now we have a PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, PSP and two DSs.
Some of my favs are as follows.
All time fav games: Final Fantasy 4, 6&8. Shin Megami Tensai: Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Disgaea: Hour of Darkness (own the PS2,PSP & DS versions), Fatal Frame 1-3, Rule of the Rose, Resident Evil 4, Link's Crossbow, LittleBigPlanet, Gears of War, Patapon and more.
Current addictions: Patapon, Disgaea 2, Locoroco 2, Pixel Junk Monsters, Persona 3:FES, World of Warcraft
note: I've pretty much sold my soul to sony...

Fav Manga/Anime: Strawberry Marshmallow, Strawberry Panic, Strawberry Milk Shake, CardCaptor Sakura, Alien 9, Figure 17, Kanon OVA, Uta~Kata, Penguin Brothers, GunSmith Cats, Chirality, Pita-Ten, Yuri Shimai
Current Addictions: Girlfriends, Nana, Crimsom Hero, I.S., Hidamari Sketch, Sasame Kikoto
Fav Shoujo-ai Couples: Tomoyo/Sakura, Yuri/Kumi, Rally/Misty, Hikaru/Tsubasa, Sae/Hiro

All time Fav books: Bunnicula series, IT, Nightshift, Needful things, Graveyard Shift, Firestarter, Shadows, Suffer the Children, Second Child, The Darkness, Hellfire.
Fav Authors: Stephen King, John Saul, James Howe.

Fav movies asian horror (the original versions): Ringu, The Eye, Parasite Eve and more then I can remember.
Fav. Movies: There are just too many of them to list. I might if people are really interested.

I also collect undead Teddy Bears called Teddy Scares. I have a few of them already and want many more.

Fan art of my worlds

Inside OuT


Dreaming of Another Day


Morbid Tales


ASD
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Fan art off DA
The Shadowlands

Christian Francis, the first person to ever give me fan art. *grins*
ASD fan art
Kima, lainala and drake fan art
neko fan art

Gift from Steven Bennet of Iron Cat.
neko gift art

Adam Goode
neko fan art

Jessica
Neko, Kima and Lainala fan art

Adam Lockheart from
Dragon Mango
Kris fan art

Mariel Ortiz
neko and Kima

Mai
Drake fan art

Jennifer Willie
Angelina fan art

Tre
Kai fan art by Tre

Unknown
Angelina fan art
Kai fan art
Neko fan art
Kima fan art
Kima and Jenn fan art
Kim fanart
Kim and Lainala fan art
shadowlander's fan art

Thanks everyone for all the support over the past decade.

People of interest

Inspiring artist that got me back into the art mode with their works:
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Inspiring photographers:
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DA Friends:
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Clubs
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Stamps

Stamps
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Current project underway

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I tend to do these in no real order.

:star:Art Projects :star:
- Work on more Inside OuT
- Work on more dark and Macabre works, more blooodddd...
- More Chibi's for the 100 Chibis challenge 27% complete. 4 sketched and awaiting colouring
- 3 new death angel pieces awaiting colouring
- "In My heart and In My Mind" Character sketches to colour
- Morbid Talescharacter sketches to colour, 3 more
- Complete more unfinished art from the past years.

:star:Writing Projects :star:
Back to writing again
- A Shadowlander's Dream: Book 3 - Heavily underway, half way completed.
- Morbid Tales book 2 - Beginning started.
- Tainted Impressions - Working on
- Whimsical Wanderers: - On Hold
- One's Purpose: Needs reediting, On Hold
- Secret Letters, Rule of the Rose story: On Hold
- Short stories - one in works
- new stories - one planned

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