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The whole popularity thing and Improving art

Journal Entry: Thu Feb 28, 2008, 1:19 PM


The whole popularity thing and Improving Art
First off I would like to apologize for the massive uploads I've been doing as of late. For those who don't know I've been doing art and writing for 10 years now and recently, back in Jan, I had to shut my site down due to the fact that I just could not keep up with all the updates and I wanted to focus more on my art and writing and less on reviews and such. That being said I have a lot of art work and writing that I've been moving here over here the past while. I uploaded a lot back in December and January, but at that time I wasn't going to post my manga projects or my writing here. Then there came a few problems and people wanting the manga here so I decided to post the rest, hence the huge amounts of uploads. I'm sorry for this and I should have it all up rather quickly, more so now that I figured out that I can post several chapters at a time, and then only new art and writing will be uploaded from that point on.

Now for the real reason for this journal post. I've noticed a lot of people on here complaining about not being popular and what have you. I've been meaning to make a post about this for some time, even wrote a really long rant about how silly it all is. Then today I came across a Journal by Misskittyoooo that pretty much summed everything up: [link]

I'll explain how I went about gaining attention for my works in my bio later, but for the most part it was a lot of work. There are many ways to gain attention for your works, but all of it consists of getting off of DA and showing off your works, not pimping your works to the point of getting people sick, but finding communities of like minded individuals that might enjoy your works. I mean before coming here I was moderately known in the shoujo-ai community, on several forums. If I had not taken a 3 year break from art I probably would have more of my old fans here right now, most were lost when I switched from manga to novel writing. But I still go to my old areas and post the occasional piece for people to see.

Then there are conventions. They are the best way to gain exposure and meet other artist as well. You can even see which other artist on DA are going to be at the con and meet up with them. I spent 7 years going to conventions and worked my way from being in the artist alley to the dealers room and finally a guest of honour at several cons. This took a lot of work and I ended up offering a lot of my time to conventions in anyway I could, Creating mascot works, pushing their cons everywhere I went, workshops, panels and what have you. By become a mascot artist it was double exposure, it was giving the con exposure and my art at the same time. It was great fun for the time, but rather stressful. I still get people asking if I'll show up at conventions again, but I'm not sure if I'm up to all of that again.

Another thing to do for anime/manga artist is to join up on Gaia and offer Avatar art to people. Oddly enough the piece of Avatar art I did of my wife and myself drew in a lot of people. People have asked me time and time again to draw more avatar art and to sell it on Gaia, but I'm too busy right now to do that, but I may consider it at a later date. It is still something that many of you can do and it could help out with your skills too, flesh out your sketches and give you more to draw when on those block moments.

But more then anything draw, draw and draw more, or in the case of writings write until you drain your brain of all ideas then post up a storm. I mean over the past couple of months I've ended up with 50 watchers and several thousand page views simply from posting my works like mad and surfing around the site, talking with people in the forums, posting on journals, commenting on art work and all that kind of thing. The more time you spend creating new works the more people will get to see it.

The only thing I don't suggest is drawing something just to get attention. If you just draw what others want it will quickly drain you to a dried out husk and that is something you don't want to do. I remember getting stuck in that, "Must do what others want." phase and it was horrible. It wasn't until I started drawing what I feel like drawing again that I started enjoy art again. I write and draw only what I feel like and don't really give a care if people don't like it. Hell when I was told to not draw blood and stop with the teen fiction I just wrote and drew more. I don't like being told what not to do and it is more likely to make me just do it more to piss the person off.

Also try looking around at what is popular as well and learn from it. I don't copy other styles, I try to figure out what makes it so popular and work with it. Try to understand the nature of the piece more then anything else. I'm not really sure how to explain it, but to tell you I spend days just looking at other peoples art works, watching how they go about colouring and concepts. From photographs to painting, anything that will inspire my mind to draw. I'll try to explain more when I do that photo reference tutorial.

Here is an example of my improvements over the years. Drawing 20 pages a month for over five years really gives you time to improve. It is interesting to see how much my works changed over the years.


Well sorry to ramble. I don't know where I'm going with this. My mind is in quite a muddled state at the time being. I hope this made some sense to you. Just check out that journal I linked to. Things are explained more clearly there.

Well jaa ne

Kat


Ten Free Sketchs
Here is my list of free sketches that I'm giving away.

10 sketch give away
1. :icontamasha: - One of her male character... this is going to be a challenge.
2. :iconjessicablood: - Utena and Anthy
3. :iconagent-ayu: - Konoka Konoe and Setsuna Sakurazaki from Negima
4. :iconshanejayell: - a "girlfriend" pic of Tomai and Ayuki from Kasimasi
5.:iconagawa: - piece of herself and her girlfriend.
6. :iconkrystalraven: - need to find out what she wants
7. :iconshell4art: - chibi of herself
8.
9.
10.

If you wish to get a few sketch there are four slots left. Check out my post about for the rules regarding this. [link]


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:iconagent-ayu:
I was just about to go into that phase of "Draw what the people want...---" than my friends stopped me and made me draw a short comics about what sometimes goes on in my head or happens to me in my life.

I think I should try going back to Gaia avatar artwork once I'm done with the 5 sketches I still owe XD.

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:iconshinigami-shimai:
Yeah is can be hard to keep yourself from falling into that trap. I kept getting people telling me that that I had to update my style to the newer styles of CG colouring and draw more fanart and that kind of crap, discovered what I needed to do was nothing like that, but draw what I wanted and ignore those who think that I should change. I mean there is giving advise and then telling someone they are doing it all wrong. I can't understand some people.

Yeah, I'm still off and on about drawing more avatar works. I know I could end up with a lot of people requesting stuff, but then I would have very little time for my other works. I should try to get all this other work out of the way before starting any new projects.

Well jaa ne

Kat

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:flagcanada: Married Canadian Dyke and Proud :pride:
Read my new Yuri manga series Inside OuT: [link] or visit one of my many other lesbian series on my page.
:iconagent-ayu:
I don't even get why people can't appreciate others works by they way they do it. Then again those people probably don't realize that every one is different and has their own styles.

This is why I haven't done any since back in middle school with the avatar arts. Which forums should I go to to display and be willing to request art work?

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:iconshinigami-shimai:
*shrugs* some people seem to think they know what is best and everyone should follow them like little lemmings off a cliff.... that is how I view it.

I'm not sure where to go because it all depends on you really. The art forum has a thread for posting avatar art and you can create a shop in one of the forum area which is where most people do it. Best to try to find another person on Gaia that sells avatar art and see what they do. For me I just stick with the guilds and keep to my little group. I don't like the rest of gaia very much so only offer my art to the people who have joined my guild or are part of one of the other guilds I'm part of.

Well good luck to you.

off to make dinner.

Kat

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:flagcanada: Married Canadian Dyke and Proud :pride:
Read my new Yuri manga series Inside OuT: [link] or visit one of my many other lesbian series on my page.
:iconagawa:
I totally agree. Having ambition is one thing, but how can an artist appreciate and believe in their own art if they're doing it all for someone else? Practice, learn from critism, and draw when you want to and what you want to...
:iconevync:
Whoa, this is brilliant, and totally mind blowing, well said on all levels my friend. the link and other journal are brilliant to, so i decided to put a watch on that person as well. This i all gonna revolve on my new journal entree i'll be posting, look forward to it, i know i will...

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:iconshinigami-shimai:
Well I'm glad it was helpful too you. I just find it funny how many people think that popularity is so grand and wanted to say something about it. I think I might post a link to this in my header so others can find it later.

Well, good luck with your writing.

Kat

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:flagcanada: Married Canadian Dyke and Proud :pride:
Read my new Yuri manga series Inside OuT: [link] or visit one of my many other lesbian series on my page.
:iconshinigami-shimai:
*nods* Exactly. This is one reason I don't do commissions very much. I tend to be a free spirited artist and writing, which in turns makes it hard for me to work with others too. I like to see when people bring their own style to things, even in fan art. Anyone can just replicate a style, but not everyone can build their own style and work with it. *grins*

jaa ne

Kat

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:flagcanada: Married Canadian Dyke and Proud :pride:
Read my new Yuri manga series Inside OuT: [link] or visit one of my many other lesbian series on my page.
:iconkrystalraven:
ya know...that girl said it all

popularity isn't everything and it doesn't happen over night. if you're patient, you'll get watchers.

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New Year is here, time to get back to work again
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Merry x-mas. ;)
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Let's just say I've not had the greatest of pasts and when I get depressed I sometimes feel like Death itself.
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Is there a way to explain it?
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Thanks, it is good to be back Shane
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Welcome back, oh Shinigami. ^_^
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Personal Info


For those who don't know me. Here are some facts about me.
Name: Sister of Death Kat
DOB: April 29 1975
Sexuality: Boi Dyke, for those who don't understand this means I'm a lesbian who looks boiish.
Status: Happily married to my wife and soulmate :icontheredwolf13:. Yes we are legally married so please don't message me with questions about if it is true or not.
Location: Ontario Canada.
Occupation: Artist and writing of lesbian lit. Mostly horror and the likes.

I am Shinigami Shimai Kathryn, Kat to most. No the nick name Shinigami Shimai did not come from Bleach or Death Note, I've had it for about 10 or so years and it started from my first manga series A Shadowlander's Dream and represents a lot of who I am. If you read my many novels you will understand why.

I a major gamer and anime/manga fan. I love horror games and RPGs and have been playing games since I was little. Been watching and reading anime/manga since the late 70s, love shoujo more then anything else, and started studying the style back in the late 80s, before all the hype. I also love psychological thrillers and horror, been reading Stephen King since I was about thirteen and fell in love with his style and the sheer creepiness of his creations. But I can't stand horror without a story too it, slashers are right out for me.

Kim, my lovely wife and soulmate, and I are both major gamers and as such we have had many systems. Right now we have a PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, PSP and two DSs.
Some of my favs are as follows.
All time fav games: Final Fantasy 4, 6&8. Shin Megami Tensai: Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Disgaea: Hour of Darkness (own the PS2,PSP & DS versions), Fatal Frame 1-3, Rule of the Rose, Resident Evil 4, Link's Crossbow, LittleBigPlanet, Gears of War, Patapon and more.
Current addictions: Patapon, Disgaea 2, Locoroco 2, Pixel Junk Monsters, Persona 3:FES, World of Warcraft
note: I've pretty much sold my soul to sony...

Fav Manga/Anime: Strawberry Marshmallow, Strawberry Panic, Strawberry Milk Shake, CardCaptor Sakura, Alien 9, Figure 17, Kanon OVA, Uta~Kata, Penguin Brothers, GunSmith Cats, Chirality, Pita-Ten, Yuri Shimai
Current Addictions: Girlfriends, Nana, Crimsom Hero, I.S., Hidamari Sketch, Sasame Kikoto
Fav Shoujo-ai Couples: Tomoyo/Sakura, Yuri/Kumi, Rally/Misty, Hikaru/Tsubasa, Sae/Hiro

All time Fav books: Bunnicula series, IT, Nightshift, Needful things, Graveyard Shift, Firestarter, Shadows, Suffer the Children, Second Child, The Darkness, Hellfire.
Fav Authors: Stephen King, John Saul, James Howe.

Fav movies asian horror (the original versions): Ringu, The Eye, Parasite Eve and more then I can remember.
Fav. Movies: There are just too many of them to list. I might if people are really interested.

I also collect undead Teddy Bears called Teddy Scares. I have a few of them already and want many more.

Fan art of my worlds

Inside OuT


Dreaming of Another Day


Morbid Tales


ASD
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Fan art off DA
The Shadowlands

Christian Francis, the first person to ever give me fan art. *grins*
ASD fan art
Kima, lainala and drake fan art
neko fan art

Gift from Steven Bennet of Iron Cat.
neko gift art

Adam Goode
neko fan art

Jessica
Neko, Kima and Lainala fan art

Adam Lockheart from
Dragon Mango
Kris fan art

Mariel Ortiz
neko and Kima

Mai
Drake fan art

Jennifer Willie
Angelina fan art

Tre
Kai fan art by Tre

Unknown
Angelina fan art
Kai fan art
Neko fan art
Kima fan art
Kima and Jenn fan art
Kim fanart
Kim and Lainala fan art
shadowlander's fan art

Thanks everyone for all the support over the past decade.

People of interest

Inspiring artist that got me back into the art mode with their works:
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Inspiring photographers:
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DA Friends:
:iconmarcusmaximus::iconshanejayell:

Clubs
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Stamps

Stamps
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Current project underway

:star:gifts and contests:star:
I tend to do these in no real order.

:star:Art Projects :star:
- Work on more Inside OuT
- Work on more dark and Macabre works, more blooodddd...
- More Chibi's for the 100 Chibis challenge 27% complete. 4 sketched and awaiting colouring
- 3 new death angel pieces awaiting colouring
- "In My heart and In My Mind" Character sketches to colour
- Morbid Talescharacter sketches to colour, 3 more
- Complete more unfinished art from the past years.

:star:Writing Projects :star:
Back to writing again
- A Shadowlander's Dream: Book 3 - Heavily underway, half way completed.
- Morbid Tales book 2 - Beginning started.
- Tainted Impressions - Working on
- Whimsical Wanderers: - On Hold
- One's Purpose: Needs reediting, On Hold
- Secret Letters, Rule of the Rose story: On Hold
- Short stories - one in works
- new stories - one planned

Would you like to see more of my Stamps? 

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